ok looked out in the shop and found the following I don't know if this will help you at all here are some weights along with the shape allowing for half inch or 50 caliber as follows

1 inch round x 50 cal=.0.175#/inch

1 1/8 inch round x 50 cal= 0.28 # / inch

1 1/8 inch Oct x 50 cal =. 2423 # / inch

1inch Oct x 50 cal =. 1799 # / inch

this does not allow for sites, Brechplug or anything else just the weight of the Barrel.

Thanks Mates, might be able to get 13# with a 1 1/8x 42 x.50 half stock

Oldbow,
I question wether or not you will make weight. I'm shoting a 34" Rayl 1 1/8" X 34" barrel in .40 caliber with and underhammer (H&A type) action with butt stock only. That set up, with sights and bases, weighs in at 12.75#. My chunk gun with a 1 1/8" X 42" barrel in .50 caliber with the same action, open sights and butt stock, no forearm, weighed in at just under 14#.
Mark

Are there many off hand rifles used at the table shoot? I don't have a Chunk or Table rifle, plan to use my .40 or .36.
Any thoughts?

~Tony

Tony
when we first started having table shoots. Our hope was to see a lot of offhand rifle's probably squirrel guns come out of the closet and we have seen quite a bit of that as we knew would happen. People almost immediately started building rifles suited to the game but the old standby, offhand rifles stay competitive and as Mark said, while we were writing the rules for the nationals, we included a Hunter class, which is intended for just that, offhand hunting rifles. So you're 36 or 40 should fit right in and do very well. At the local clubs attendance will probably dictate whether they have two classes or just one.
We wanted to put the shooter back in the shoot, but still make it accessible to everybody so far were having pretty good luck. By the way I see you're from northern Kentucky would be East Central or Western, Northern Kentucky. We have five shoots a year at Allen Coon's and have one at friendship off-season and of course will be having table shoots at both the spring and fall nationals this coming year. Hope to see you around.

The rifle that I have used once for that is my experience at table shooting is a .40 cal rifle that weighs less than 10#. I actually made it for shooting the Squirrel Rifle Bench Rest at the Nationals if I ever get back there. I figured that it would work just fine for Table Shooting too. Now that Big John has one started over in the middle of the state and a couple of guys are now getting interested at my home club I figure on getting a lot my experience at this game.

RB

That's good I like that! I really wondered about the 13# limit just figured that was a open invitation for custom built target rifles.

RB

MMprwarner wrote:

It is very interesting to see how Paul's prophecy is coming true. That's the one where he said, this game is not necessarily designed for existing rifles. Although we hope people will use them. People will build rifles to fit the game.

Yes, we knew when we were setting up the criteria for the equipment and the rifle in which we were trying to hold down a continuing equipment race. We also knew people would immediately start building rifles that would push thresholds of the criteria. It would not matter what kind of weight limit. We set or any other criteria we may have set up for the rifle, human nature and competitive spirit will drive people to push the threshold. We had really hoped to see a lot of hunting rifles come out of the closet and they have, I hope to be able to run two classes at our home club shoots. However, attendance for both classes will have to prove it to be worthwhile.

I believe Mark put it best. We want everybody that wants to play to feel welcome and I hope that we are doing a good job of that.

Try Stonewallcreek they had some Green Mountain and Rice barrels listed the last time that I looked about a week ago.

RB

Last edited by rhbrink (11/21/2014 12:56 PM)

Tony I haven't got the schedule firmed up yet. I have a tentative schedule put together, I just need to get with Julia and get the dates locked in. There will not be a December or February shoot this year. I think I've tempted fate on the weather on those too much. We will be moving them into the spring and summer of the Year. We will glad to see you get back up this direction take care.

Last edited by MMprwarner (11/21/2014 7:19 PM)

Oldbow, I'll post what I know about out here west of the Mississippi.

Iowa, I don't think that there is much of this type of shooting going on at Least I haven't heard or read about any.

Arkansas, I don't know of any table or chunk gun shoots but surely there must be some somewhere? There is a good black powder match held at Berryville in the Spring and Fall but it is more benchrest, offhand, pistol-revolver, shotgun type thing.

Missouri, we do have guite a bit of muzzle loading shooting going on around the state. There is a Table Shoot that happens twice a year just north of Ste. Genevieve. This happens  sometime around Easter and one in the Fall about the third week of September. This is an old one and has been going on for about 130 years or so I've been told. Owl Creek Muzzle Loaders near Colombia is starting up some Table Shooting Big John will probably be along and tell you more about that and schedules for next year. Next year Fort Osage Muzzle Loaders over in the West-Central part of the state is going to have some Table Shoots I don't dates yet also we do a three day Benchrest match sometime in the summer along with the State championship matches and a Fall Indian Summer shoot also a Territorial Match in the Spring. Then there is the Bevel Brothers World Championship Chunk gun match in October about the third weekend I think. This one is North of Kansas City. And then there is Charlie's Old Farm Shoot they every Sunday all Winter I don't know much about this one it is East of Jefferson City. It's kind of a combination table benchrest chunk gun match and it's a meat shoot? Big John knows a lot more about this than I do never been there but I plan to fix that this Winter.

RB
 

Good morning !
 >>>Owl Creek Muzzle Loaders near Colombia is starting up some Table Shooting Big John will probably be along and tell you more about that and schedules for next year.<<<
I had one shoot a couple of weeks ago and we had so much fun, decided we are going to have some more shoots! I am currently waiting for the bow shooters to get their dates set for the upcoming year. The cowboy shooters have claimed the second Saturday of the month so I can schedule around them. The MoOffHandAssn. also have 19/20 shoots during the summer so I may have to step on their toes a little but most of those shooters are not table shooters anyway.
>>> And then there is Charlie's Old Farm Shoot they every Sunday all Winter I don't know much about this one it is East of Jefferson City. It's kind of a combination table benchrest chunk gun match and it's a meat shoot? Big John knows a lot more about this than I do never been there but I plan to fix that this Winter.<<<
I shot here with this bunch of guy's several years ago. I haven't been down there in the past 5 years and understand they have changed their rules a little to get back to the more traditional rifle shooting of old. Rifles that a man would carry with him on a daily basis instead of the great heavy guns. That is the way I think it should be. I will be going down there soon.
I will be posting Owl Creek dates as soon as they become available. Today would have been a grteat day!!

Big John in the Kingdom of Callaway 
 

I calcuated 1 1/8" x 42"x .50 cal = 10.18#,
1" x 42" X .50 cal = 7.56#
  Lock, trigger, stock and screws ect.   = 3.3/4# , checked  with the postage scale.
1 1/8 DON"T make it............ 
Thank for the help. Ern

Last edited by Oldbow (11/25/2014 6:07 PM)

Rich is on the right track. Many of the longer barrels are 1" or less. My barrel is 1 1/8" X 34" in .40 caliber. I feel the shorter barrel is also more rigid and controls flexing and vibration better. You can also eliminate the forestock completely. It doesn't have to be the prettiest rifle in the rack to shoot well.
Mark