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Long ago, I remember seeing modern inline ML (target/Anschutz style) that I believe were made by Mr. Frazier. I've looked for one for many years, to no avail. A very high tech for the time offhand rifle.
Anyone know of one in existance? or, even photo's, drawings of one would be absolutely fantastic. If I can't find one, I might recreate on, if at all possible.
Thanks in advance.
Big Jim
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I remember Clark Frazier rifles as being underhammer not inline I remember reading about them in a Muzzle Blasts
magazine in 1971 or 1972 hope that helps a little.
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Clark is still coming to Friendship, I saw him in the Spring. His ml's were in great demand but limited supply. I shot with him at Camp Perry in 1999. If you find one for sale, be prepared to dig deep.
Mark
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Thanks, guys..
Would anyone have contact info for Mr. Frazier? I'd like to send him a personal e-mail/snail mail, whatever.....
thanks again.
Jim
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They were called Matchmate rifles, in offhand and benchrest configuration. I don't think Clark makes them anymore, but he might. He lives in Rawson, OH in case that helps.
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I have an offhand Matchmate that was made for me in 1979, serial number 45 with a .50 caliber Douglas XX barrel. I waited 2 years for it. It's an underhammer with Redfield sights and Merit disc. The stock is laminated crotch walnut face with two strips of zebrawood and a 1/2" strip of vermillion in the middle. I had a machinist drill and tap the barrel for an aluminum muzzle rest. It has the lead weights and ball starter too plus Caplex case. I still have the letters Clark wrote to me on the progress of the rifle. I can send pics if you want.
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I also have a 1947 Jack Weichold full stock bench rifle that's also an underhammer. It weighs about 35 pounds, so you can shoot and pump iron at the same time. 
Edited to say the rifle was featured in Muzzle Blasts about 2 years ago or so.
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Tubbers,
You have a couple of rifles there that shoul be great shooters, if they have been maintained. I have an orginal chunk gun made by Elisha McCraner out of Dark County that was lined by Jack Weichold. I haven't shot it much but it does a lot better than I am deserving of.
Mark
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smokinbuck wrote:
Tubbers,
You have a couple of rifles there that shoul be great shooters, if they have been maintained. I have an orginal chunk gun made by Elisha McCraner out of Dark County that was lined by Jack Weichold. I haven't shot it much but it does a lot better than I am deserving of.
Mark
Thanks, Mark. I don't shoot much anymore, and the rifles are well cared for.
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Tubbers,
You have a couple of rifles there that shoul be great shooters, if they have been maintained. I have an orginal chunk gun made by Elisha McCraner out of Dark County that was lined by Jack Weichold. I haven't shot it much but it does a lot better than I am deserving of.
Mark
I have an article on Weichold from the Cincinnati Historical Society that talks about how he restored old rifles.
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He did a great job on the McCraner rifle that I have. If it were not for his stamp on the muzzle you wouldn't know it was lined.
Mark
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He did a great job on the McCraner rifle that I have. If it were not for his stamp on the muzzle you wouldn't know it was lined.
Mark
That's great. How did he mark it?
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His name is stamped around the face of the muzzle.
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His name is stamped around the face of the muzzle.
Neat.
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I only have the Matchmate on the right now.
Left to right: Robert Grundman Hawken........Lloyd Resor bench rifle.........Llyod Resor slug rifle with 16 power Unertl.
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A couple close-ups of the Matchmate.
Some close-ups of my Matchmate and a shot of the Weichold (had the rear sight off).
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I'm considering selling the bench rifle, but it needs a couple things. A sight hider pin (it was gone when I bought the rifle and it looks like someone dropped the false muzzle and it snapped off) and the breech plug threads have some slop in them.
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Tubbers,
Haven't seen much on these for a while, great group of target rifles. Is it the Resor bench gun you were talking about selling? I'm RH but shoot lefty due to eye problems and that is definitely a RH stock.
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I meant the full stock Weichold. I don't have the Resor anymore.
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I’m sorry to say that Clark passed away yesterday. I believe the “Oldest Kid on the Block” was 89. He introduced me to Friendship and took me around to all the different locations from the big bench guns to the shotguns. I got to rifle a barrel with Clark, I believe it was one of those Tom Sawyer moments with me painting the fence. I wish I could rifle another barrel with him. If you are lucky enough to have one of his rifles, take it out this weekend and send Clark a volley.
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I’m sorry to say that Clark passed away yesterday. I believe the “Oldest Kid on the Block” was 89. He introduced me to Friendship and took me around to all the different locations from the big bench guns to the shotguns. I got to rifle a barrel with Clark, I believe it was one of those Tom Sawyer moments with me painting the fence. I wish I could rifle another barrel with him. If you are lucky enough to have one of his rifles, take it out this weekend and send Clark a volley.
Thank you Blackswamp. I'm really sorry to hear about Clark. I've had one of his rifles since 1979 (serial #45) and it took two years to get. It is a true work of art. Do you have any idea how many he made? Thanks.
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I don’t know how many he made. Clark numbered his match mates but some of his others were not numbered. He has a record book that he recorded the type of barrel and caliber. He noted the test shots, powder, patch and ball size. I think he was going to leave it wirh NMLRA.
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I don’t know how many he made. Clark numbered his match mates but some of his others were not numbered. He has a record book that he recorded the type of barrel and caliber. He noted the test shots, powder, patch and ball size. I think he was going to leave it wirh NMLRA.
Thank you.
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